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Bits and Pieces - Qualified Perceptions
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Bits and Pieces
  • Yesterday was an emergency reschedule of next week's Conflux run. We mostly squashed four (small) armies before they invaded Earth, and we asked Michael for some advice and he chucked an angel through the stained glass window at us. Of course, angels have a different morality than we do, which will be interesting.
  • Some Men, at the Speakeasy on Saturday. Enjoyable, kept light through anecdotalness, and surprisingly full of nude men. There was a comment in the program about a previous draft of the play having women characters, which were removed in the final draft; desireearmfeldt has her own objections to that, but mine start with feeling like the story is very insular if it's only about gay men, but probably in the end boil down to "I am happier with a story if there are characters like me in it!". Which is ironic, given that gay men and other minorities have a much stronger claim to being underrepresented in fiction than I do.
  • Five octopodes (is that pronounced "ock-TOP-poe-dees", kirisutogomen? That's how I've been saying it...) done. For those who want to follow along at home, here's an Octopus Wars roster. I had to debug two different bugs in the album script to get the octopus corner frame to work!
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chenoameg From: chenoameg Date: March 17th, 2008 07:38 pm (UTC) (Link)
I LOVE the eyebrows.
desireearmfeldt From: desireearmfeldt Date: March 17th, 2008 08:01 pm (UTC) (Link)
I actually don't exactly object to the removing-the-women thing. Or perhaps it's more accurate to say I do and I don't.

As the author pointed out in the notes, the play is called Some Men, it's really supposed to be focused on gay men, having women in it would diffuse the focus and I suspect it's better off without them.

On the other hand, I often feel excluded by implication when I watch gay-men-centered drama, because it so often gives the impression of a world in which women simply don't exist at all. And in the context of a thing about people who often culturally feel excluded, that...irritates me is not the right word, perhaps what I mean is I find it ironic. I don't *expect* women to have a role in such a thing...but still, as a portrayal of What Life Is Like, it does bother me. (Of course, as firstfrost pointed out at the time, I don't know any gay men who never associate with women, because by definition anyone I know associates with at least one woman. :) )

Aesthetically, I am perfectly happy with stories that are all-male; that's not a "not like me" setting that turns me off about fictional characters.

From the point of view of a woman in theatre, I rail against all-male casts. :) But that's not about the story; that's about *logistical* equity. (I suppose I could also rail that women are being brushed aside via not being equally represented as characters, and it's probably true, but somehow it doesn't make me as mad -- possibly because there are lots of good, varied, interesting female roles out there, even if the numbers are smaller; it's not the case that you can't *find* pretty much any type/aspect of female character you want out there.)
desireearmfeldt From: desireearmfeldt Date: March 17th, 2008 08:02 pm (UTC) (Link)
(I found the full frontal nudity distracting, in the sense that every time they got naked I ended up wondering if they were going to artfully conceal the naughty bits or not -- expecially since they sometimes, but not always, did. :) )
jdbakermn From: jdbakermn Date: March 17th, 2008 08:16 pm (UTC) (Link)
I totally need to start going to more plays. Especially plays with naked men. :)
jdbakermn From: jdbakermn Date: March 17th, 2008 08:19 pm (UTC) (Link)
So, um, this is really a question for mjperson, but do we have the rules for Octopus Wars yet?
firstfrost From: firstfrost Date: March 17th, 2008 08:32 pm (UTC) (Link)
Not yet - his deadline is "when the octopodes are all done". :)
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